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is the governor summoning the compassionate conservatism of george w. bush? chris hayes gives us the how and why next. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. is an awesome place to be. introducing the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ sophisticated new styling, the fuel-saving intelligence of eassist, 37 mpg highway, and up to 580 highway miles on a single tank of gas. ♪ the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ it has everything to put you in the malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ >>> he's the invisible man of the gop, his endorsement a brief i'm for mitt romney came as a pair of elevator doors were closing. despite being the last republican to occupy the white house he was nowhere to be seen at the republican national convention but is mitt romney now embracing a little bit of w.? as the republican nominee moved toward the center of w
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bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him the answers through an earpiece -- rather by bringing an illegal crib sheet on to the debate stage with him. you see, previous debate rules have set out very clearly that, quote, no props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate, and, yet, have a loom at this damning evidence. this is at the very beginning of the debate on wednesday night and as you'll be able to see clearly here what is that in your pocket? mr. romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of
bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him...
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george w. bush was the second worst since roosevelt, so there was obviously a problem president obama was handed when he came to office. look as what he's been handed and look what it's been run up to. if you take the average yearly deficits and put them up as a percentage of gdp or what the country was producing at the time, the size of the deficit compared with the economy, under president obama's watch sill the biggest size of a deficit as compared with the economy, still the biggest since roosevelt. look at roosevelt, look back at fdr. the deficit then was nearly as big and that deficit was almost erased. how did roosevelt do that? created social security and levied heavier taxes, programs for housing and agriculture, put new controls over banks, public utilities and created enormous work relief programs for the unemployed. sounds similar to the president's proposals today, but unlike the last four years fdr saw the unemployment drop, millions of jobs created, gdp jumped, the deficit shrank
george w. bush was the second worst since roosevelt, so there was obviously a problem president obama was handed when he came to office. look as what he's been handed and look what it's been run up to. if you take the average yearly deficits and put them up as a percentage of gdp or what the country was producing at the time, the size of the deficit compared with the economy, under president obama's watch sill the biggest size of a deficit as compared with the economy, still the biggest since...
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>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final debate, look at this, almost tied coming in, bush starts to pull away with a strong last debate performance where he made a connection on faith. >> it's very personal. i pray for strength, i pray for which is dornlgs i pray for our troops in harp's way, i pray for my family. i pray for my little girls. prayer and religion sustain me. i receive calmness in the storms of the presidency. >> calmness in the storms of the presidency from george w. bush. he went on then from that debate to keep his lead and to win that election. >> and joining me now is c
>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final...
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remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door bells, making phone calls. and i think there's going to be a lot of surprises. >> but ed rendell, a lot of republicans like ralph like to go back to the reagan days. the difference is, as i have discussed this week with some pollsters, he was 20 points up after the convention. we had seen his ability to create wide swings. we haven't seen that in this race. it's much more polarized. right? >> no question. and ralph is right to some extent about the polls. but, look, we all know that the challenger gets a big bump in the first debate. no question about it. just appearing on
remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door...
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. >> and you can see george w. bush's impact on those issues. in 2003, justice o'connor browr, diversity is a legitimate goal and the case you're going to hear, the fisher case out of the university of texas, is a direct challenge to that and a threat to affirmative action in public universities but it could lead essentially to the death of affirmative action and and you covered in this book, and i'm reading it, very good book, that a lot of the behind the scenes back and forth around the affordable health care act when it went before the court and people were stunned, i among them, when john roberts voted and you write in the book and i want to read, this is out of the book, quote, by demanding that roberts kill our entire health care law, the four conservative justices prompted them to look for some kind of middle ground. roberts felt obligated to protect the institutional interests of the court, not just his own philosophical agenda. now, doing that, he uncost merrily went against the conservatives, members of the court. >> he certainly did a
. >> and you can see george w. bush's impact on those issues. in 2003, justice o'connor browr, diversity is a legitimate goal and the case you're going to hear, the fisher case out of the university of texas, is a direct challenge to that and a threat to affirmative action in public universities but it could lead essentially to the death of affirmative action and and you covered in this book, and i'm reading it, very good book, that a lot of the behind the scenes back and forth around the...
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president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of t
president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of...
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the relationship to the george w. bush era is very uncomfortable. there are no new ideas there. the fact that they haven't figud out how to get their arms around e bush legacy given the cthat e bear hug around the policies, one thing that i think is going on is, they -- there is a limit to how stupid they want to look. i think some of them want to be ab to say the day after the saiscoming. look at what i said in october. and in september. i told you if romney doesn't talk about what he is going to do, then he is in trouble. they are trying to put their markers down alth cumns are small monthly premiums on the insurance policy. they are getting attacked. they are putting down premiums so they could purchas the insurance. the ideas whe t battle after words. a lot could happen in 41 days. greece could exit tomorrow and it looks different and we are at is table in a week. >> they are proct frd romney loss and trying to prefight the battle over the reason that it happened. let's not forget. paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicareart d presiption drug befit which has co
the relationship to the george w. bush era is very uncomfortable. there are no new ideas there. the fact that they haven't figud out how to get their arms around e bush legacy given the cthat e bear hug around the policies, one thing that i think is going on is, they -- there is a limit to how stupid they want to look. i think some of them want to be ab to say the day after the saiscoming. look at what i said in october. and in september. i told you if romney doesn't talk about what he is going...
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as you know, fran was homeland security advisor during the george w. bush administration, as we often point out, she currently serves on the cia's external advisory committee and recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. she had actually met with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the pictures you see of what arwa's talking about? >> as i listen to arwa, it just reinforces what we said last week and we've said from the beginning. investigators have to go there, even if you didn't have all the physical evidence there that arwa just described to our viewers, you would want to know from the witness interviews, anderson, you would want to know measurements, you would want to be able to take people through it to really understand what the dynamic was. but then you see things like handprints and blood samples. one of the things, the first thing you would do, i'll give you an example, that is you would take the blood sample off the toilet and the bidet and see whether or not it matched first to the ambassador's. did he fall. the
as you know, fran was homeland security advisor during the george w. bush administration, as we often point out, she currently serves on the cia's external advisory committee and recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. she had actually met with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the pictures you see of what arwa's talking about? >> as i listen to arwa, it just reinforces what we said last week and we've said from the beginning. investigators have to go...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that...
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. >> what is your fondest memory of your time in the white house with president george w. bush? >> that we have known each other on and off. served as governors together. probably giving him barney was -- the best thing. >> so he had a present for his wife. a form of jewelry. her chief of staff said he wouldn't like it so he'd taken it back and didn't have a gift. it was her birthday. we just had a litter of puppies. why don't you give her a puppy? >> barney was loved. >> the most watched videos for the white house. >> remember barney cam? so much fun. more of our conversation at noon. why mitt romney has the reputation of having a difficult time connecting with voters. >>> coming up, mitt romney ruffles feathers at pbs. what's the truth? could big bird survive if mr. romney gets his way? ♪ tell me how to get to sesame street ♪ ♪ on my way to where the air is sweet can you tell me how to get, how to get to sesame street ♪ >> for all of you moms and kids out there, don't worry. somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out, too. g
. >> what is your fondest memory of your time in the white house with president george w. bush? >> that we have known each other on and off. served as governors together. probably giving him barney was -- the best thing. >> so he had a present for his wife. a form of jewelry. her chief of staff said he wouldn't like it so he'd taken it back and didn't have a gift. it was her birthday. we just had a litter of puppies. why don't you give her a puppy? >> barney was loved....
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tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them, but it would be of watergate proportions. for people who don't want the numbers to trend, i suppose in a somewhat positive trend -- john harwood is not, this is not hos ana hosana is it's absurd and a complete distraction from what the report says and what's happening in the economy. >> john harwood gave excellent perspective. these numbers are not a celebration. this is a continuing story line. the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just poi
tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them,...
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w. and you are now looking at live pictures from the rally, amphitheater and meanwhile, earlier in the day, his wife, ann was greeted with kind words, by supporters at an orlando campaign office. >> i really believe, that your husband is going to be, i think that he will have as much impact as ronald reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is set to take the stage, fund-raising news from both campaigns, carl? >> reporter: that's right, may be a while before we see governor romney, it is lightning country in florida and the campaign's arrival is delayed because of fear that it might be a threatening storm. a big crowd here and big money raised by mitt romney since the debate. his debate performance clearly caught the attention of both republicans, who were worried about the trajectory of his campaign and new voters and the campaign is reporting since the debate p
w. and you are now looking at live pictures from the rally, amphitheater and meanwhile, earlier in the day, his wife, ann was greeted with kind words, by supporters at an orlando campaign office. >> i really believe, that your husband is going to be, i think that he will have as much impact as ronald reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is...
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george bush was long gone. that's the first george bush. and george w. bush's election. there is a lot of talk about october surprises. it is very rarely a reality in presidential elections. i know of none. this election, it's going to take a dramatic change in the basic dynamic of the election for running to win. i understand why people are trying to get it back. i want to make one more point. this is a classic case of what is called the fault of war. initially, after any kind of military conduct, attack whatsoever, there is an enormous amount of confusion. barack obama is winning on terrorism and he has launched 270 drone attacks against pakistan versus 40 for george w. bush, 47, excuse me, for george bush. he has a very strong numbers on terrorism and will not lose on this issue. >> i will go back to you in a second, but my question is there is confusion when something like this happens, but that was not the message that we received after these murders. they didn't say we were confused. they can say we were still sorting the information and we don't want to get out ah
george bush was long gone. that's the first george bush. and george w. bush's election. there is a lot of talk about october surprises. it is very rarely a reality in presidential elections. i know of none. this election, it's going to take a dramatic change in the basic dynamic of the election for running to win. i understand why people are trying to get it back. i want to make one more point. this is a classic case of what is called the fault of war. initially, after any kind of military...
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i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image f
i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in...
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w. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a gap between winning and spinning, with the first presidential debate now history, the verdict is in. a string of pundits agree, and so do observers and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one, romney. the left-leaning slate.com's john dickerson calling it the best moment of mitt romney's campaign. obama supporter andrew sullivan calls it the president's worst public performance bar none of his campaign. "time" magazine's joe kline asked did the president send out his body double tonight. critical reviews across the board. the consensus and also the political reality now staring team obama in the face. there is also no denying that no matter who wins or loses a given debate, each side immedia
w. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a gap between winning and spinning, with the first presidential debate now history, the verdict is in. a string of pundits agree, and so do observers and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one,...
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bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think probably benjamin netanyahu's standing with important leaders is pretty well fixed, i don't think it moves it one way or another. he is a hard liner. he doesn't like this administration plainly. they have some real differences. he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrabl
bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think...
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george w. bush had very struggling numbers. not so strong, decent third quarter, decent third quarter helped president bush heading into his re-election campaign. look how weak growth has been in this election year in the obama presidency? well below even what it was in 2004 for george w. bush and the second quarter drops more. very anemic growth. we don't know the third quarter numbers. we'll get those before the election. president obama we know he's trying to do something no one's done with fdr, win with the unemployment rate above 7.2%. look at gdp numbers to win, it would be a bit of history. >> certainly would be. john, thanks very much. we're going to have much more coverage, full coverage of tonight's debate president obama and governor romney face-to-face as american voters weigh their choice. the first presidential debate takes place tonight. you can watch it live. our coverage begins 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> a fiery speech by then-senator barack obama sets off some media fireworks five
george w. bush had very struggling numbers. not so strong, decent third quarter, decent third quarter helped president bush heading into his re-election campaign. look how weak growth has been in this election year in the obama presidency? well below even what it was in 2004 for george w. bush and the second quarter drops more. very anemic growth. we don't know the third quarter numbers. we'll get those before the election. president obama we know he's trying to do something no one's done with...
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w. bush delivered. once they depend on the benefits of government you have half of the country depends on it but a lot are deserving they already paid in. but income tax, you have a situation it is finished for the party, we'll get taxes you don't pay. they are not going to vote for republicans, that is one of the long-term endemic problems of the republican party, the republican parties, my old boss ronald reagan, and george w. bush contributed to. neil: thank you, sir, pat, always a pleasure. >> always. thank you very much, neil. neil: all right, well i have a filing this might come up as a debate next week it could be a game changer that maybe media is wrong page. we are out in denver for the opening salvo, what will be for debate that kicks in denver could we're there 8:00 p.m. eastern time through midnight, unlike a lot of other business networks that say, yeah it is a big election, be there or be square, we're there. you know, until we're not. don't be late. >> meanwhile, the guy w
w. bush delivered. once they depend on the benefits of government you have half of the country depends on it but a lot are deserving they already paid in. but income tax, you have a situation it is finished for the party, we'll get taxes you don't pay. they are not going to vote for republicans, that is one of the long-term endemic problems of the republican party, the republican parties, my old boss ronald reagan, and george w. bush contributed to. neil: thank you, sir, pat, always a pleasure....
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they blame george w. bush. and he is, in a sense, the elephant in the room. something too embarrassing to mention, but something too overwhelming not to matter. and there's other poll data that kind of suggests that consciously or not, when people are going to the polls, they are thinking about maybe we're going to return to george w. bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult l
they blame george w. bush. and he is, in a sense, the elephant in the room. something too embarrassing to mention, but something too overwhelming not to matter. and there's other poll data that kind of suggests that consciously or not, when people are going to the polls, they are thinking about maybe we're going to return to george w. bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i...
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they never covered george w. bush like he was going to lose. >> you look like you are going to come out of your chair. >> the media has been covering this year's events as if the only thing matters is who wins in november. we actually had a president of the united states for the last year who has spent i bet if you go through his daily schedule i bet it spent about 80% of his time running for reelection. if that were a republican president on a day like we had last week at the u.n. that appeared on a more entertainment focused show but could not meet with our most important ally in the middle east and not with a single member of a family hit by unwith of the insider attacks in washington i believe the media would be going nuts. >> chris: wait, juan? >> clearly the president went to the ceremony for ambassador stevens and met with the families. i think this is republican conspiracy. >> the fbi still isn't in benghazi. >> if you give the media the 47% statement and give the media clint eastwoo eastwood ae offshore
they never covered george w. bush like he was going to lose. >> you look like you are going to come out of your chair. >> the media has been covering this year's events as if the only thing matters is who wins in november. we actually had a president of the united states for the last year who has spent i bet if you go through his daily schedule i bet it spent about 80% of his time running for reelection. if that were a republican president on a day like we had last week at the u.n....
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bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you attribute the record rise in poverty and the ex-spams of income inequality und youer your administration? >> a great question and if i decided to start with the president, that's the question i would have used, just that one. i mentioned his most recent stump speech, se, he mentioned the word "poor" once in passion a record number of poor people in the united states, 46 million. accusing mir of being cold and heartless and not caring about the 47%. i have heard next to nothing.from the president who speaks endlessly about the middle class about the plight of the for a poor and an excellent que
bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you...